The State of Nemetics as of Sept 15 . . . .

copy and paste from a G+ thread

+Mark Hurych  So here's where nemetics is as of today... I will do a beginning translation then wait for your observations, critiques and especially any thoughts about what's missing.

First some fundamentals:

A Neme comes from an acronym of Notice ornot Engage ornot Mull ornot Exchange ornot.  The contention is that N.E.M.E can be used to capture "Learning" in any context. A school, a person, an organization, a city, a region as well as physics and biology.

The central concept is that all those systems tend to Free Neme Exchange within Appropriate Constraints.

The terms neme, nCell, nTube and nString all refer to the same phenomona viewed from different stances. 

So

A tribe is a group of 20 to 150 people

The name of a tribe is a NEME. 

The reality of a tribe is an nCell.

The relationships in a tribe are nTubes. An extended family is a good example, although jobs, location, communication patterns are other nTubes. A nTube is also called a "Narrative."

The stories exchanged within the Tribe form nStrings. 

I like to view most things as nCells as it points to the living reality of a tribe.

One more piece. The nCell moves through an nField which consists of the turbulent waves that are invisible until a measurable point occurs by being observed.

A tribe is defined by a group who knows one another enough that, if they saw another walking down the street, would stop and say “hello.” What makes the tribe more effective than others is its culture.- 

So back to you :-) 

Mark Hurych

Sep 14, 2013

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I get this. I do like the remolding of concepts and exploring new ones. Your thinking is often well-suited for what I yearn to learn. Neme seems like a given. It's what I do in cyberspace. 

Shall we dance? lol 

Mark Hurych

Sep 14, 2013

"The reality of a tribe is an nCell."
As I try to nail down a definition of nCell and understand its reality, it hits me. You just mean a tribe is an example of an nCell. I think. I'm maybe wrestling with a bar of soap. Maybe grasping too hard. Ok. I wonder: Why all the nTalk? Is it nMath or nSystemics shorthand?

I take the red pill and like Alice go down this rabbit hole...

Mark Hurych

Sep 14, 2013

"The relationships of a tribe are nTubes."
And some surfer dude who totally gets this, right now is saying it's totally tubular. I don't surf. I only play Stand-and-fall. Like a four-year-old who must play Throw-and-miss before he can play Catch, I'm fumbling with this nThing. 

Michael Josefowicz

Sep 14, 2013

So the reason for nTalk is that if we just used Cell, String, Tube the things people see who vary depending on their experience, mood and the particular frame that is triggered. If you're in a conversation with biologists they see one thing. If in a conversation about social media another thing. .

It first evolved in an exchange with Daniel. We were just playing around and got to stuff like "we need to get together a group of the Knights who say Neme."  Once it was in play we just kept extending it and it worked pretty well.

Does that make sense?

On the question of ""The reality of a tribe is an nCell." what I was trying to get at is reality - phenomenon - instead of the word. Maybe a better way to say "reality" in that sentence is "The phenomenoligical nature of a "tribe" can be usefully translated to "nCell" in the context of nemetics.

Your other observation is spot on. The purpose of nemetics is to translate insights from any complex adaptive/creative system to any other. So if we can translate the phenomenon of an ant colony and the phenomenon of G+ and twitter and national politics using the same code, we can use what people know about each to do a compare, contrast. clarify the underlying process.

So does this nBullshit make sense?  ( btw your questions forced me to clarify what I was thinking. That's how dialog is supozed to work. Cool. )

Back to you.

Mark Hurych

Sep 14, 2013

Ah. Maybe I can explain my blundering about tribes. I don't know any tribes where I can name 20 of its members.

It would be very difficult for me to name 20 people who know each other. That statement seems absurd, so let me see:
Cathy
John
Jodi
Ana
Stephen [after the first 3 I slow to a crawl]
Mauro
Raquel
Casey [really struggling now]
Adela
Raul [that's 10 and that's about all I can name of the people at work who work together and know each other]

On my side of the family, most of whom are far away, the situation is about the same.

On my wife's side, which is huge, over 300 know me by name and as my wife's husband, but I might be able to name 15. Lets see.
Am*
Al*
An*
Felipe
Juanie
Joany
Kenia
Martha
Esther
Zoe
Charlene [11, slowing again]
Steve

I'm not sure how unusual this is, but I am a happy camper. I must be extremely introverted compared to most people and I've always been comfortable with it.



Mark Hurych

Sep 14, 2013

Relationships are nTubes and narratives are nTubes? I don't follow. What I don't follow is why are we labeling everything with "n"?
The nThis and nThat is starting to sound to me like the Batman joke where Batman drives the Batmobile to the Batcave but didn't have time to answer the Batphone because he had to go to the Batroom.

Rim shot. Budum bum...

Michael Josefowicz

Sep 14, 2013

I like the the Batman analogy. The reason for nBullshit is exactly that it forces people to stop for a sec. Also to translate from one complex adaptive/creative system a "man gotta have a code.' It's like math in the sense that among nemeticians its a precise code that first confuses then clarifies.

But mostly it's cause it's way fun :-)

You should know my tribe is pretty similar to yours except that my family is much smaller ( I cud explain another time in a different context)

Consider your students or colleagues. The def of a tribe is people you know by their first name.

So back to you as an a nCell.

Over the net and back to your side of the court..

Ta dum :-) 

Mark Hurych

Sep 14, 2013

Well ok. nTomay-toe or nTomah-toe, we're in the same tribe learning the secret handshake. It's cool. nCell

Michael Josefowicz

Yesterday 6:30 AM

Cool... 

HIstory - The Nemetics Way Part 1

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2. Dibyendu De ‏@PredictSwan58m

   @toughLoveforx True. DM is abt change. But 'surplus value' eqns & its derivation cnsdrs partially equilibrium I think. @HumanAtom @ddrrnt

   
   

   Michael Josefowicz ‏@toughLoveforx1h

   @PredictSwan not really familiar with Marx's equations. More the focus on change. Although he misses overdetermination. @HumanAtom @ddrrntExpand
3. Michael Josefowicz ‏@toughLoveforx54m

   @PredictSwan Economic is not the "fundamental" trigger. That's where Marx goes wrong. Thgts? @HumanAtom @ddrrnt

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4. Dibyendu De ‏@PredictSwan40m

   @toughLoveforx Why do u think so? I still think it is the fundamental trigger. Can't c it any other way. I may be wrong @HumanAtom @ddrrnt

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5. Michael Josefowicz ‏@toughLoveforx35m

   @PredictSwan The Rwave creates the condition. The Bwave creates the Notice. The Gwave is the Response. You buy it? @HumanAtom @ddrrnt

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6. Dibyendu De ‏@PredictSwan30m

   @toughLoveforx Bought it!!! Priceless!! The maths between this is wud b coupling of nonlinear resonant peaks. @HumanAtom @ddrrnt

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Being - The Nemetics Way

Meditate on the possibility that sickness and misfortune may happen for you any day.

Meditate on the fact that your life will end.

Move through the day keeping drama to a minimum.

For loved ones be ready to respond in a heartbeat.

For others respond only when it feels right.

Use the waiting time in your day for you and/or subconcious to Mull.

Keep in mind that every Exchange creates stress.

Stress comes from the expectation or felt need to respond.

Whether to Respond or RespondNot is your decision.

Make every decision that feels right in your stomach and heart.

Know that every dialog is an exchange.

Dialogs that purport to find the Truth are stories.

The appropriate response to a story is "I like it or I don't like."

Sometimes stories seem to point to the real world.

 Stories are contextually dependent.

Without context a story makes much less sense.

Without context stories obfuscate, rather than clarify.

With a gut understanding of the context, one can always learn.

Meditate on the possibility sickness or misfortune may happen for you any day.

Meditate on the fact that your life will end.

Investing - The Nemetics Way

The Gwave is the level of interest. It is visible through the price of a stock.

The Rwave is the real economy. In the States that means trends of housing prices, car sales, retail sales.

The Bwave is the global financial markets. Most especially the cost of money made visible in relevant rates on bonds and currency values.

The other piece is

1. What are your aspirations?
For me a sustainable revenue stream.

2. Where do you want to play?
In the financial markets as I don't want to invest the time and effort in a real world business. Also I don't have tenure nor a pension that I can depend on.

3. How do you plan to win?
By keeping ongoing revenue stream in the middle of my radar.  Daily, weekly, monthly stock movments are usually just noise. Concentrating on the ongoing revenue stream eliminates the stress of watching the Gwave go up and down and up and down.

4. What resources do we need to win?
Time and a wide notice on Bwave and Rwave.

5. How do you know it's going in the right direction?
By checking the trading website to check on expected annual income.

Nemetics is just a code...

Nemetics was invented to be able to have intelligent conversations about complexity within the constraints of twitter. Based on conversations over the last two years or so it has proven it's value.  As a by product of this original intention, it seems that nemetic code can translate insights from any complex system to inform action in any other complex system.

To be clear, nemetics does not pretend to be a "new" idea. Merely a way to communicate between the silos of science and art.  Following is a nice example of the power of design. Below is how the insights earned can be captured in "jargon" to be able to apply to other complex systems.

Step one is to watch this video

A neme is an acronym of Notice. Engage. Mull. Exchange. The contention is N.E.M.E. can capture the mechanisms of learning both for an individual and for an organization or community.

Neme Exchange indicates the exchange of information or objects.  Markets consisting of exchange of products or services for time or money are said to be platforms for Neme Exchanges.

All exchanges happen within constraints. Formal markets move within Explicit Rules - laws. But every nEx ( neme exchange ) occurs within constraints.  Some constraints are authentic. Many constraints are bullshit - in the sense of having outlived their usefullness.

The underlying principal is that complexity has a tendency to move to Free Neme Exchange within Authentic Constraints. 

The situation described in the video is there exists a paradox between the food wasted and the need for food by children in the street. Among some this is a real problem that needs to and can be solved.  The materials are in place. Hunger children. Excess food. One part of the problem is to make it easy to do the logistics of getting the right food to the right place at the right time.

The function of the sticker is to eliminate the wasted time in sorting the food.  It cuts through the constraint of asking people to give time which must be devoted to the work of running a food establishment. Simply putting on the sticker makes it fast and easy. It has radically changed the Time constraint so that food to children ( a neme exchange ) can move with less friction.